From bob at bobcatos.com  Sat Jan  2 18:18:43 2010
From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr)
Date: Sat Jan  2 18:19:03 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
Message-ID: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>

Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
so my favorite WM is one of them.  I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.  First,
the environment:

Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
2GB RAM
Fedora 12 for the x86_64

F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
v2.2.8.  Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.  I
thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
selector, but I cannot find it now.  I even tried

  echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc

and that doesn't work either.

<rant>
Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
WMs to the login WM selector?  Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
what?
</rant>

Ah, I feel better now.

Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either

- Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
- Brute-force AS into operation?

Cheers,
-- 
Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
From jkrebs at tconl.com  Sat Jan  2 19:22:32 2010
From: jkrebs at tconl.com (Jeff Krebs)
Date: Sat Jan  2 19:22:51 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
Message-ID: <20100103012232.GA30992@localhost.localdomain>

The 2.2.9 RPMS are in the downloads area of the website for F11 and F12, for 
both i386 and x86_64.  I'd check out those as well as the SRPMS.

Under F12 with gdm, I get AS as a WM option, at least with the AfterStep.org 
RPMS.  I'd give those and the AS Fedora repo a look:

http://www.afterstep.org/download.php?show=RPMS

Please post if there are additional issues. 2.2.9 needed some significant 
patching from cvs; hopefully the development team can get a newer release 
soon.


Jeff Krebs

* Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> so my favorite WM is one of them.  I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.  First,
> the environment:
> 
> Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> 2GB RAM
> Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> 
> F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> v2.2.8.  Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.  I
> thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> selector, but I cannot find it now.  I even tried
> 
>   echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> 
> and that doesn't work either.
> 
> <rant>
> Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> WMs to the login WM selector?  Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> what?
> </rant>
> 
> Ah, I feel better now.
> 
> Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> 
> - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> - Brute-force AS into operation?
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
> bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
> The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
> truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
> cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
> _______________________________________________
> As-users mailing list
> As-users@afterstep.org
> http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users
From bob at bobcatos.com  Sat Jan  2 19:46:26 2010
From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr)
Date: Sat Jan  2 19:46:44 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103012232.GA30992@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<20100103012232.GA30992@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20100103014626.GA18262@bobcat.bobcatos.com>

Hi Jeff,

On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 07:22:32PM -0600, Jeff Krebs wrote:
> The 2.2.9 RPMS are in the downloads area of the website for F11 and F12, for 
> both i386 and x86_64.  I'd check out those as well as the SRPMS.
> 
> Under F12 with gdm, I get AS as a WM option, at least with the AfterStep.org 
> RPMS.  I'd give those and the AS Fedora repo a look:
> 
> http://www.afterstep.org/download.php?show=RPMS

That is absolutely superior!  Thanks a bunch.  I didn't know RPMs were
available.  Terrific!

> Please post if there are additional issues. 2.2.9 needed some significant 
> patching from cvs; hopefully the development team can get a newer release 
> soon.
> 
> 
> Jeff Krebs
> 
> * Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> > Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> > so my favorite WM is one of them.  I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> > like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.  First,
> > the environment:
> > 
> > Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> > 2GB RAM
> > Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> > 
> > F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> > v2.2.8.  Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> > it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.  I
> > thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> > selector, but I cannot find it now.  I even tried
> > 
> >   echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> > 
> > and that doesn't work either.
> > 
> > <rant>
> > Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> > adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> > WMs to the login WM selector?  Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> > what?
> > </rant>
> > 
> > Ah, I feel better now.
> > 
> > Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> > 
> > - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> > - Brute-force AS into operation?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -- 
> > Bob McClure, Jr.

Cheers,
-- 
Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
From youngsw at gmail.com  Sat Jan  2 19:52:11 2010
From: youngsw at gmail.com (The Steve)
Date: Sat Jan  2 19:52:48 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
Message-ID: <1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>

Check out the WM files in /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/ ... Just need to create one for afterstep.

----- Original message -----
> Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> so my favorite WM is one of them.? I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.? First,
> the environment:
>
> Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> 2GB RAM
> Fedora 12 for the x86_64
>
> F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> v2.2.8.? Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.? I
> thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> selector, but I cannot find it now.? I even tried
>
>? ? echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
>
> and that doesn't work either.
>
> <rant>
> Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> WMs to the login WM selector?? Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> what?
> </rant>
>
> Ah, I feel better now.
>
> Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
>
> - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> - Brute-force AS into operation?
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Bob McClure, Jr.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
> bob@bobcatos.com? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.bobcatos.com
> The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
> truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
> cry and saves them.? Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
> _______________________________________________
> As-users mailing list
> As-users@afterstep.org
> http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users

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From bob at bobcatos.com  Sat Jan  2 21:03:21 2010
From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr)
Date: Sat Jan  2 21:03:38 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>
Message-ID: <20100103030321.GA19385@bobcat.bobcatos.com>

On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:52:11PM -0900, The Steve wrote:
> Check out the WM files in /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/ ... Just need to create one for afterstep.

That's what I thought, but

$ ls -l /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/
ls: cannot access /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/: No such file or directory

> ----- Original message -----
> > Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> > so my favorite WM is one of them.? I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> > like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.? First,
> > the environment:
> >
> > Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> > 2GB RAM
> > Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> >
> > F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> > v2.2.8.? Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> > it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.? I
> > thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> > selector, but I cannot find it now.? I even tried
> >
> >? ? echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> >
> > and that doesn't work either.
> >
> > <rant>
> > Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> > adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> > WMs to the login WM selector?? Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> > what?
> > </rant>
> >
> > Ah, I feel better now.
> >
> > Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> >
> > - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> > - Brute-force AS into operation?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Bob McClure, Jr.

Cheers,
-- 
Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
From jkrebs at tconl.com  Sat Jan  2 21:34:33 2010
From: jkrebs at tconl.com (Jeff Krebs)
Date: Sat Jan  2 21:34:53 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103030321.GA19385@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>
	<20100103030321.GA19385@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
Message-ID: <20100103033433.GA31245@localhost.localdomain>

It's actually:

/usr/share/xsessions/

for Fedora Core 5 and later.


Jeff Krebs


* Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:52:11PM -0900, The Steve wrote:
> > Check out the WM files in /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/ ... Just need to create one for afterstep.
> 
> That's what I thought, but
> 
> $ ls -l /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/
> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/: No such file or directory
> 
> > ----- Original message -----
> > > Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> > > so my favorite WM is one of them.? I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> > > like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.? First,
> > > the environment:
> > >
> > > Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> > > 2GB RAM
> > > Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> > >
> > > F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> > > v2.2.8.? Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> > > it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.? I
> > > thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> > > selector, but I cannot find it now.? I even tried
> > >
> > >? ? echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> > >
> > > and that doesn't work either.
> > >
> > > <rant>
> > > Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> > > adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> > > WMs to the login WM selector?? Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> > > what?
> > > </rant>
> > >
> > > Ah, I feel better now.
> > >
> > > Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> > >
> > > - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> > > - Brute-force AS into operation?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > --
> > > Bob McClure, Jr.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
> bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
> The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
> truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
> cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
> _______________________________________________
> As-users mailing list
> As-users@afterstep.org
> http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users
From bob at bobcatos.com  Sat Jan  2 21:44:08 2010
From: bob at bobcatos.com (Bob McClure Jr)
Date: Sat Jan  2 21:44:26 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103033433.GA31245@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>
	<20100103030321.GA19385@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<20100103033433.GA31245@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20100103034408.GA20029@bobcat.bobcatos.com>

On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:34:33PM -0600, Jeff Krebs wrote:
> It's actually:
> 
> /usr/share/xsessions/
> 
> for Fedora Core 5 and later.

_That's_ what I was looking for.  Thanks a bundle.

> Jeff Krebs
> 
> 
> * Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:52:11PM -0900, The Steve wrote:
> > > Check out the WM files in /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/ ... Just need to create one for afterstep.
> > 
> > That's what I thought, but
> > 
> > $ ls -l /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/
> > ls: cannot access /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/: No such file or directory
> > 
> > > ----- Original message -----
> > > > Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> > > > so my favorite WM is one of them.? I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> > > > like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.? First,
> > > > the environment:
> > > >
> > > > Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> > > > 2GB RAM
> > > > Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> > > >
> > > > F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> > > > v2.2.8.? Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> > > > it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.? I
> > > > thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> > > > selector, but I cannot find it now.? I even tried
> > > >
> > > >? ? echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> > > >
> > > > and that doesn't work either.
> > > >
> > > > <rant>
> > > > Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> > > > adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> > > > WMs to the login WM selector?? Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> > > > what?
> > > > </rant>
> > > >
> > > > Ah, I feel better now.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> > > >
> > > > - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> > > > - Brute-force AS into operation?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > --
> > > > Bob McClure, Jr.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -- 
> > Bob McClure, Jr.

Cheers,
-- 
Bob McClure, Jr.             Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
From youngsw at gmail.com  Sat Jan  2 22:06:35 2010
From: youngsw at gmail.com (The Steve)
Date: Sat Jan  2 22:07:07 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103033433.GA31245@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>
	<20100103030321.GA19385@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<20100103033433.GA31245@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1262491595.9832.5.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>

Oh they changed the location, it makes better since.  Sorry for the misinformation.  I haven't used a redhat based distro since redhat 9 :)

----- Original message -----
> It's actually:
>
> /usr/share/xsessions/
>
> for Fedora Core 5 and later.
>
>
> Jeff Krebs
>
>
> * Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:52:11PM -0900, The Steve wrote:
> > > Check out the WM files in /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/ ... Just need to create one
> > > for afterstep.
> >
> > That's what I thought, but
> >
> > $ ls -l /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/
> > ls: cannot access /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/: No such file or directory
> >
> > > ----- Original message -----
> > > > Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> > > > so my favorite WM is one of them.? I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> > > > like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.? First,
> > > > the environment:
> > > >
> > > > Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> > > > 2GB RAM
> > > > Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> > > >
> > > > F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> > > > v2.2.8.? Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> > > > it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.? I
> > > > thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> > > > selector, but I cannot find it now.? I even tried
> > > >
> > > > ? ? echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> > > >
> > > > and that doesn't work either.
> > > >
> > > > <rant>
> > > > Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> > > > adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> > > > WMs to the login WM selector?? Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> > > > what?
> > > > </rant>
> > > >
> > > > Ah, I feel better now.
> > > >
> > > > Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> > > >
> > > > - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> > > > - Brute-force AS into operation?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > --
> > > > Bob McClure, Jr.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Bob McClure, Jr.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Bobcat Open Systems, Inc.
> > bob@bobcatos.com? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.bobcatos.com
> > The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
> > truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
> > cry and saves them.? Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
> > _______________________________________________
> > As-users mailing list
> > As-users@afterstep.org
> > http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users
> _______________________________________________
> As-users mailing list
> As-users@afterstep.org
> http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users

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From jkrebs at tconl.com  Sat Jan  2 22:23:37 2010
From: jkrebs at tconl.com (Jeff Krebs)
Date: Sat Jan  2 22:23:56 2010
Subject: [As-users] Upgrade to v2.2.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <20100103034408.GA20029@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
References: <20100103001843.GA17318@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<1262483531.9627.6.camel@Nokia-N900-42-11>
	<20100103030321.GA19385@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
	<20100103033433.GA31245@localhost.localdomain>
	<20100103034408.GA20029@bobcat.bobcatos.com>
Message-ID: <20100103042337.GA31359@localhost.localdomain>

The RPMS are even easier :)

Setup the repo and:

yum install AfterStep

The repo has rxvt-unicode, medit, worker, and a number of applets ready to go.
The SRPMS are also available if you want to play.  If you are looking for a 
RPM that you think that will go well with AS, please post and we'll see what 
we can do.


Jeff Krebs

* Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:34:33PM -0600, Jeff Krebs wrote:
> > It's actually:
> > 
> > /usr/share/xsessions/
> > 
> > for Fedora Core 5 and later.
> 
> _That's_ what I was looking for.  Thanks a bundle.
> 
> > Jeff Krebs
> > 
> > 
> > * Bob McClure Jr (bob@bobcatos.com) wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 04:52:11PM -0900, The Steve wrote:
> > > > Check out the WM files in /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/ ... Just need to create one for afterstep.
> > > 
> > > That's what I thought, but
> > > 
> > > $ ls -l /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/
> > > ls: cannot access /etc/X11/gdm/sessions/: No such file or directory
> > > 
> > > > ----- Original message -----
> > > > > Well, the holidays always seem to be the time to upgrade things, and
> > > > > so my favorite WM is one of them.? I've been happy with v2.2.8, but I
> > > > > like new things, though I know that things sometimes break.? First,
> > > > > the environment:
> > > > >
> > > > > Athlon 64 at 2.2 GHz
> > > > > 2GB RAM
> > > > > Fedora 12 for the x86_64
> > > > >
> > > > > F11 and F12 gave me AfterStep as a selection in the login GUI with AS
> > > > > v2.2.8.? Then I built AS v2.2.9 without any special options, installed
> > > > > it, and now the AS selection is not there, though many others are.? I
> > > > > thought I used to know how to get third-party WMs wired into the
> > > > > selector, but I cannot find it now.? I even tried
> > > > >
> > > > >? ? echo "exec afterstep" > .xinitrc
> > > > >
> > > > > and that doesn't work either.
> > > > >
> > > > > <rant>
> > > > > Why in the hell hasn't RH/Fedora (or anyone else, for that matter)
> > > > > adequately (so I can easily find it) documented how to add third-party
> > > > > WMs to the login WM selector?? Is this an Xorg or Gnome fsck-up or
> > > > > what?
> > > > > </rant>
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, I feel better now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, can someone give me a clue how I can either
> > > > >
> > > > > - Get AS back into the login GUI selector menu, or
> > > > > - Brute-force AS into operation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bob McClure, Jr.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > -- 
> > > Bob McClure, Jr.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
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> bob@bobcatos.com             http://www.bobcatos.com
> The LORD is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in
> truth. He fulfills the desires of those who fear him; he hears their
> cry and saves them.  Psalm 145:18-19 (NIV)
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From pgg at tanren.pl  Thu Jan  7 01:01:03 2010
From: pgg at tanren.pl (Przemyslaw Gawronski)
Date: Thu Jan  7 01:02:14 2010
Subject: [As-users] sys tray
Message-ID: <20100107070103.GA3046@69-mo6-3.acn.waw.pl>

Hi, I'm having problems with peksystray (wmsystray crashes at startup).
I can put only as much as 4 apps in sys tray, after that peksystray
crashes also :( Is there a way to put more apps there?

And one more thing how can I put apps (like NetworkMannager) in systray
at startup without running it manually?

I'm running AfterStep 2.2.9 on Fedora 12, from yum repo.

Thanks for help

Przemek
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From jkrebs at tconl.com  Thu Jan  7 09:48:03 2010
From: jkrebs at tconl.com (Jeff Krebs)
Date: Thu Jan  7 09:54:48 2010
Subject: [As-users] sys tray
In-Reply-To: <20100107070103.GA3046@69-mo6-3.acn.waw.pl>
References: <20100107070103.GA3046@69-mo6-3.acn.waw.pl>
Message-ID: <20100107154803.GB25743@localhost.localdomain>

I'll look and see if I can find a patch or fix for peksystray.

Have you looked at trayer or stalonetray?  Both are in the repo and are much 
more flexible than the the fixed-size Wharf applets.  I've used trayer for a 
while and consider it "solid".

Jeff Krebs


* Przemyslaw Gawronski (pgg@tanren.pl) wrote:
> Hi, I'm having problems with peksystray (wmsystray crashes at startup).
> I can put only as much as 4 apps in sys tray, after that peksystray
> crashes also :( Is there a way to put more apps there?
> 
> And one more thing how can I put apps (like NetworkMannager) in systray
> at startup without running it manually?
> 
> I'm running AfterStep 2.2.9 on Fedora 12, from yum repo.
> 
> Thanks for help
> 
> Przemek
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> info i zapisy: http://tanren.pl/  tel.:0-501-51-66-66  mailto:dojo@tanren.pl
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From jkrebs at tconl.com  Thu Jan  7 10:42:22 2010
From: jkrebs at tconl.com (Jeff Krebs)
Date: Thu Jan  7 10:42:41 2010
Subject: [As-users] sys tray
In-Reply-To: <20100107070103.GA3046@69-mo6-3.acn.waw.pl>
References: <20100107070103.GA3046@69-mo6-3.acn.waw.pl>
Message-ID: <20100107164222.GA7360@localhost.localdomain>

Another item of interest...

Have you installed "alltray"?  It allows you to add any application to the 
systray.  I have it set as a Wharf button; I click the alltray Wharf button, 
then the application I want in the tray, and it goes right in.

Jeff Krebs


* Przemyslaw Gawronski (pgg@tanren.pl) wrote:
> Hi, I'm having problems with peksystray (wmsystray crashes at startup).
> I can put only as much as 4 apps in sys tray, after that peksystray
> crashes also :( Is there a way to put more apps there?
> 
> And one more thing how can I put apps (like NetworkMannager) in systray
> at startup without running it manually?
> 
> I'm running AfterStep 2.2.9 on Fedora 12, from yum repo.
> 
> Thanks for help
> 
> Przemek
> -- 
> AIKIDO TANREN DOJO - Warszawa  -  Mokotow  -  Ursynow  -  Natolin  -  Kabaty
> info i zapisy: http://tanren.pl/  tel.:0-501-51-66-66  mailto:dojo@tanren.pl
> ul.Lanciego 12,         Metro: Natolin,         Autobus: 165,179,436,504,505
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From ph1 at openstrike.co.uk  Sat Jan 16 11:58:01 2010
From: ph1 at openstrike.co.uk (Pete Houston)
Date: Sat Jan 16 11:58:26 2010
Subject: [As-users] 2 issues with v2.2.9
In-Reply-To: <20091203043916.GA18296@localhost.localdomain>
References: <723447.10283.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20091203043916.GA18296@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20100116175801.GA2550@palma.openstrike.co.uk>

On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:39:16PM -0600, Jeff Krebs wrote:
> On startup, AS is loading and converting the images that will be found 
> under Menu -> Desktop -> Pictures to the miniturized previews that 
> display.

This does sound like the cause of the slowness. The conversion of the
images seems unnecessary when the majority of them won't change very
often. Maybe afterstep could save the converted images and then on
subsequent restarts just compare the timestamps of the source and
converted files? Just a suggestion.

> I seem to remember a command to disable image previews, but can't 
> remember the syntax.  "Sometimes I remember to forget".

I've just found this. In your look file you can set

MenuMiniPixmaps 0

to disable them. Setting it to 1 will bring them back.

HTH,

Pete
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