From ed-afterstep at s5h.net  Sat Aug  2 11:13:54 2008
From: ed-afterstep at s5h.net (ed)
Date: Sat Aug  2 11:14:11 2008
Subject: [As-users] aterm odd characters
Message-ID: <20080802171354.576fe446@ed-desktop>

Hello,

I've been niggled by some odd characters in man pages, I think it's
unicode issues, this behaviour is the same with rxvt and eterm.

Terminals like gnome-terminal, konsole and urxvt don't appear to do
this, the characters appear more like fancy quotes.

If it helps I can provide a screenshot of this.

Would this be a strange setting that could be an environment variable
in my terminal that could be configured?

-- 
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From pfrostie at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  2 12:38:14 2008
From: pfrostie at yahoo.com (phrostie)
Date: Sat Aug  2 12:38:24 2008
Subject: [As-users] aterm odd characters
In-Reply-To: <20080802171354.576fe446@ed-desktop>
Message-ID: <909195.96468.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

check that you have the correct locale installed correctly.
i had a similar problem.


--- ed <ed> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've been niggled by some odd characters in man pages, I think it's
> unicode issues, this behaviour is the same with rxvt and eterm.
> 
> Terminals like gnome-terminal, konsole and urxvt don't appear to do
> this, the characters appear more like fancy quotes.
> 
> If it helps I can provide a screenshot of this.
> 
> Would this be a strange setting that could be an environment variable
> in my terminal that could be configured?
> 
> -- 
> The T1 to www.mydigitalvoid.com is breakdancing because of a translator
> who speaks Bocce. Network Appliance is selling their dialup customers
> to Earthlink. :: http://www.s5h.net/ :: http://www.s5h.net/gpg.html
> > _______________________________________________
> As-users mailing list
> As-users@afterstep.org
> http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users
> 


phrostie
Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of DOS
and danced the skies on Linux silvered wings.
From ed-afterstep at s5h.net  Sat Aug  2 12:42:56 2008
From: ed-afterstep at s5h.net (ed)
Date: Sat Aug  2 12:43:09 2008
Subject: [As-users] aterm odd characters
In-Reply-To: <909195.96468.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <20080802171354.576fe446@ed-desktop>
	<909195.96468.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080802184256.3711bdaf@ed-desktop>

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT)
phrostie <pfrostie@yahoo.com> wrote:

> check that you have the correct locale installed correctly.
> i had a similar problem.

Thanks, I found a work around using this:

LANG=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 /usr/bin/aterm

Now just to find out what man is complaining about when it terminates.

-- 
The 14.4 dialup to the cell tower is wigging because of the death of
dot com companies. RedHat is gasing up the marketing hype machine.
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From turnerjw784 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  2 15:55:35 2008
From: turnerjw784 at yahoo.com (Jim Turner)
Date: Sat Aug  2 15:55:44 2008
Subject: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
Message-ID: <428873.43321.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm trying to set the appearance of the as-menu window to be a little different from normal windows for a theme I'm making.? I tried creating a "MyFrame" called "MenuWindow" in my look file and, per the docs, modified this line to my "database" to be:

Style?? "ASMenu"?? NoButton 1, NoButton 3, Frame "MenuWindow"

but no dice - menu windows still look like all other windows.? I know the frame works because if I do "DefaultFrame "MenuWindow", then all windows do look like the way I want the menu windows to look.

Jim







      
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From as_ml at vaevictus.net  Mon Aug  4 07:20:22 2008
From: as_ml at vaevictus.net (Nathan 'Vaevictus' Mahon)
Date: Mon Aug  4 07:22:52 2008
Subject: [As-users] aterm odd characters
In-Reply-To: <20080802184256.3711bdaf@ed-desktop>
References: <20080802171354.576fe446@ed-desktop>	<909195.96468.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<20080802184256.3711bdaf@ed-desktop>
Message-ID: <4896F406.9000201@vaevictus.net>

sadly, some distros are forcing unicode now, by default.
you may want to switch to urxvt (rxvt-unicode).  Sasha has gone to great 
lengths to get the functionality of aterm into urxvt.

Vaevictus

ed wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT)
> phrostie <pfrostie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> check that you have the correct locale installed correctly.
>> i had a similar problem.
>>     
>
> Thanks, I found a work around using this:
>
> LANG=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 LC_ALL=en_GB.ISO-8859-1 /usr/bin/aterm
>
> Now just to find out what man is complaining about when it terminates.
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> As-users mailing list
> As-users@afterstep.org
> http://mail.afterstep.org/mailman/listinfo/as-users
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From ed-afterstep at s5h.net  Mon Aug  4 12:59:08 2008
From: ed-afterstep at s5h.net (ed)
Date: Mon Aug  4 12:59:30 2008
Subject: [As-users] aterm odd characters
In-Reply-To: <4896F406.9000201@vaevictus.net>
References: <20080802171354.576fe446@ed-desktop>
	<909195.96468.qm@web65402.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<20080802184256.3711bdaf@ed-desktop>
	<4896F406.9000201@vaevictus.net>
Message-ID: <20080804185908.796bcdbe@ed-desktop>

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:20:22 -0400
Nathan 'Vaevictus' Mahon <as_ml@vaevictus.net> wrote:

> sadly, some distros are forcing unicode now, by default.
> you may want to switch to urxvt (rxvt-unicode).  Sasha has gone to
> great lengths to get the functionality of aterm into urxvt.

Yeah I did make the switch a long time ago, however, the scroll bar
seems to have stopped working if I move it a little. Just seems to lock
after a few lines of movement so I started to revert to aterm, like the
good old days.

-- 
The 14.4 dialup to Redback1 is wigging because of Brad White.
GST is playing Tony Hawk 3.
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From niklas at fet.at  Mon Aug  4 13:27:26 2008
From: niklas at fet.at (niklas@fet.at)
Date: Mon Aug  4 13:27:36 2008
Subject: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
In-Reply-To: <428873.43321.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <428873.43321.qm@web37301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1125.80.109.49.49.1217874446.squirrel@80.109.49.49>

> I'm trying to set the appearance of the as-menu window to be a little
> different from normal windows for a theme I'm making.? I tried creating a
> "MyFrame" called "MenuWindow" in my look file and, per the docs, modified
> this line to my "database" to be:
>
> Style?? "ASMenu"?? NoButton 1, NoButton 3, Frame "MenuWindow"

i have Style "*ASMenu" set and all works perfect...

if that does nt do it Style "*ASMenu*" should solve it 100% sure

Ident is your friend... (start->modules->ident - like xprop)



Niklas

P.S.: i?ll update docs as soon as i have access to my home machine



From turnerjw784 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  4 21:35:22 2008
From: turnerjw784 at yahoo.com (Jim Turner)
Date: Mon Aug  4 21:35:31 2008
Subject: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
In-Reply-To: <1125.80.109.49.49.1217874446.squirrel@80.109.49.49>
Message-ID: <732431.92262.qm@web37304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

No workee for me!? Here's my database entry:

Style?? "ASMenu"??????? NoButton 1, NoButton 3, Frame "MenuShift"

btw, "ASMenu" is the resource,? I also tested another match known to work for me that also fails:

Style? "*Swiftfox*"????? Icon ffoxeatsie.xpm, Frame "MenuShift", WindowBox "mywinlist", DefaultGeometry +1434+20, FocusOnMap, Focus

In my look file:

MyFrame "MenuShift"
??? Side East??? ??? /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/vert_redline.jpg
??? Side South??? /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/horz_redline.jpg
??? Side West??? ??? /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/left_vert_greyline.jpg
??? Corner SW??? ??? /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/sw_corner_red.jpg
??? Corner SE??? ??? /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/se_corner_red.jpg
??? NoBorder
~MyFrame

DecorateFrames 1

DefaultStyle "default"
FWindowStyle "focused_window_style"
UWindowStyle "unfocused_window_style"
SWindowStyle "sticky_window_style"
MenuItemStyle "menu_item_style"
MenuTitleStyle "menu_title_style"
MenuHiliteStyle "menu_hilite_style"
MenuStippleStyle "menu_stipple_style"
MenuBevel Bottom,Right
MenuBorder 1
MenuStyle "menu_stipple_style"


Regards,

Jim



--- On Mon, 8/4/08, niklas@fet.at <niklas@fet.at> wrote:
From: niklas@fet.at <niklas@fet.at>
Subject: Re: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
To: turnerjw784@yahoo.com
Cc: as-users@afterstep.org
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 1:27 PM

> I'm trying to set the appearance of the as-menu window to be a little
> different from normal windows for a theme I'm making.? I tried
creating a
> "MyFrame" called "MenuWindow" in my look file and, per
the docs, modified
> this line to my "database" to be:
>
> Style?? "ASMenu"?? NoButton 1, NoButton 3, Frame
"MenuWindow"

i have Style "*ASMenu" set and all works perfect...

if that does nt do it Style "*ASMenu*" should solve it 100% sure

Ident is your friend... (start->modules->ident - like xprop)



Niklas

P.S.: i?ll update docs as soon as i have access to my home machine






      
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From turnerjw784 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  6 22:18:30 2008
From: turnerjw784 at yahoo.com (Jim Turner)
Date: Wed Aug  6 22:18:41 2008
Subject: Solved: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
In-Reply-To: <2094.80.109.49.49.1217969867.squirrel@80.109.49.49>
Message-ID: <531874.60175.qm@web37305.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I solved my problem!? Seems that the argument to "Frame" should NOT, for some reason have quotes around it despite being an argument rather than a keyword; since changing:
Style? "ASMenu"? Frame "MenuShift"

-to-

Style? "ASMenu"? Frame MenuShift

WORKS!

Thanks again for your response!

Jim




--- On Tue, 8/5/08, niklas@fet.at <niklas@fet.at> wrote:
From: niklas@fet.at <niklas@fet.at>
Subject: Re: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
To: turnerjw784@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 3:57 PM

have you tried "*ASMenu" "*ASMenu*" ?
if they do not work, does any other database option for ASMenu ?
take one that really shows a difference... like VerticalTitle
i know for sure that one is working (cvs from a few
days ago) since i use that in my theme.

if the Frame option is then still not working, you have found a bug in
afterstep and should report so :)

i am sorry that i cannot clearly say if or what is wrong, but until
weekend i will not have access to afterstep...

greetings

Niklas


> No workee for me!? Here's my database entry:
>
> Style?? "ASMenu"??????? NoButton 1, NoButton 3, Frame
"MenuShift"
>
> btw, "ASMenu" is the resource,? I also tested another match
known to work
> for me that also fails:
>
> Style? "*Swiftfox*"????? Icon ffoxeatsie.xpm, Frame
"MenuShift", WindowBox
> "mywinlist", DefaultGeometry +1434+20, FocusOnMap, Focus
>
> In my look file:
>
> MyFrame "MenuShift"
> ??? Side East??? ???
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/vert_redline.jpg
> ??? Side South??? /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/horz_redline.jpg
> ??? Side West??? ???
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/left_vert_greyline.jpg
> ??? Corner SW??? ???
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/sw_corner_red.jpg
> ??? Corner SE??? ???
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/se_corner_red.jpg
> ??? NoBorder
> ~MyFrame
>
> DecorateFrames 1
>
> DefaultStyle "default"
> FWindowStyle "focused_window_style"
> UWindowStyle "unfocused_window_style"
> SWindowStyle "sticky_window_style"
> MenuItemStyle "menu_item_style"
> MenuTitleStyle "menu_title_style"
> MenuHiliteStyle "menu_hilite_style"
> MenuStippleStyle "menu_stipple_style"
> MenuBevel Bottom,Right
> MenuBorder 1
> MenuStyle "menu_stipple_style"
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/4/08, niklas@fet.at <niklas@fet.at> wrote:
> From: niklas@fet.at <niklas@fet.at>
> Subject: Re: [As-users] Setting different window appearances?
> To: turnerjw784@yahoo.com
> Cc: as-users@afterstep.org
> Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 1:27 PM
>
>> I'm trying to set the appearance of the as-menu window to be a
little
>> different from normal windows for a theme I'm making.? I tried
> creating a
>> "MyFrame" called "MenuWindow" in my look file and,
per
> the docs, modified
>> this line to my "database" to be:
>>
>> Style?? "ASMenu"?? NoButton 1, NoButton 3, Frame
> "MenuWindow"
>
> i have Style "*ASMenu" set and all works perfect...
>
> if that does nt do it Style "*ASMenu*" should solve it 100% sure
>
> Ident is your friend... (start->modules->ident - like xprop)
>
>
>
> Niklas
>
> P.S.: i?ll update docs as soon as i have access to my home machine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





      
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From jkrebs at tconl.com  Thu Aug  7 19:55:40 2008
From: jkrebs at tconl.com (Jeff Krebs)
Date: Thu Aug  7 19:58:26 2008
Subject: [As-users] Fedora 9 RPMS - x86_64 added to the Repo
Message-ID: <20080808005540.GA3245@localhost.localdomain>

After many requests, x86_64 (AMD) has been added to the Fedora 
AfterApplets Repository.

Setup and download instructions can be found here:

	http://www.afterstep.org/download.php?show=RPMS


96 of 97 maintained Fedora packages were successfully built on an AMD 
box.  mined2000 still needs some work.  Yudit built fine though.

I noticed that fotoxx (fotox) is in the testing area on Fedora.  That's 
great; it's a good solid application that deserves the widest 
distribution.

So, along with stalonetray and parcellite, fotoxx will graciously be 
turned over to the normal Fedora team for the masses.

Please let me know if you have any issues with any of the AfterApplets 
applications.

Jeff Krebs